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Network Security Podcast, Episode 266

by netsecpodcast@mckeay.net (Martin McKeay) on February 1, 2012

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We’re a day late, but we still managed to get this week’s show recorded! Rich is soaking up sun (or “teaching”, as he claims) in Cancún, Mexico, so we decided to rope in the illustrious Mike “Rybolov” Smith to discuss, surprise-surprise, privacy and monitoring.

Network Security Podcast, Episode 266, February 1, 2012

Time:  42:36

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Guest post by Matthew Pascucci, Information Security Writer and Practitioner.

We've all been there and if you're reading this article you know exactly what I'm talking about: the classic battle between IT and Security. Both of these groups think they're right and have their reasons behind it, but if you're not seeing each other's point of view, you're both losing. When looking at this from a high level you notice that these are two very different groups working in the same realm with very different ideologies (this brings up flashbacks from West Side Story's Shark versus Jet scenes again! These two gangs need to play nice with each other or catastrophe and hilarity (depending on how you look at it) will ensue.

Without communicating the goals and concerns of each group, there will be a cycle of failure with each team tripping over the other. The information technology department needs to understand that security is here to stay and that we're not trying to point fingers or spy on them. Calling the security team "big brother" is one of the common misnomers that security is labeled with from the start. The infosec department is monitoring the security of the enterprise and when an event or concern is brought up to your department, it's being done for a reason.

With security taking a much larger role in companies over the past 5 years, having a team of people "watching over you" is understandably annoying for IT. However, IT has to understand that security is not something you can bolt on to technology - it has to be a mindset. Until IT understands the importance of security and what our goals are we'll never be taken seriously.

I can remember one issue of classic non-communication between groups which put one of my past clients at risk. An admin who was trying to be helpful, set up a FTP share for a client to upload files in a hurry. The client uploaded the necessary files and the FTP account was left up and unsecured. Within about a day of creating the FTP account, the security team noticed larger spikes of inbound traffic to this server. It turns out that the insecure FTP site was compromised and being used to host pirated movies.

When you have a culture where IT is trying to be helpful, but in doing so going around security to get something to work, we have an issue. Security needs to provide awareness and enforce the policy, while IT needs to abide by these guidelines. If this isn't happening we'll have a dysfunctional relationship with our IT counterparts. Simple change control and education could have prevented this server from being compromised... and ultimately would have saved us from having to engage in a sticky conversation with the client.

It all comes down to seeing the company from the standpoint of risk. IT sees security as hindering them from their projects or giving them more work. Security can sometimes think of IT as lazy or single-minded. The fact is that we're both on the same team. IT needs to understand that we're a compliment to their technology, not a hindrance. And it's our job as security professionals to appropriately prove this point.

Here are some tips to bridging the gap between the two groups:

  1. Knowing when to pick your battles in security is something that needs to be considered. If security throws a fit over every issue, it's going to be viewed by the IT counterparts as crying wolf.
  2. Budget to have the IT department sent out to security training within their particular field.
  3. Provide internally driven lessons and security awareness for the IT department.
  4. Use compliance as a way to build your department and group the respect of other IT members.
  5. Be a walking security evangelist. It's our job to promote security as a culture within the organization - and that means speaking about it at every chance.
  6. After you've built a solid foundation with your IT operations counterparts, it's important to follow through with all tasks and policy. People are going to look for you to slip up, so staying on your game and "walking the walk" keeps everyone honest.
  7. Establish weekly or monthly meetings with IT to review risks and issues that have come up. This creates awareness among the two departments and provides actionable datapoints to enable collaboration.
  8. Many times this is overlooked, but using soft skills in dealing with members of each department can go a long way.
  9. Grab lunch or get to know your IT admins on a personal level - this will tangibly improve your teams' relationship going forward.

At the end of the day, we need to be allies... to deter the real "bad guys" and to improve the business.

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Kill pcAnywhere right now!

by netsecpodcast@mckeay.net (Martin McKeay) on January 25, 2012

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If you haven’t already heard, the code base for Symantec’s pcAnywhere was stolen in 2006, and bad guys are now using that code against the installed base of users in the wild.  This sort of compromise really isn’t anything that new or different.  But what is different is that Symantec is now telling users to flat out disable pcAnywhere until a fix is released.  Which is a good, smart move, but a better move would be to remove pcAnywhere and never, ever start it up again!

I remember the first time I used pcAnywhere; I was working my first helpdesk job and they let me finish part of my shift from home when I was doing mail server work, I could start up the scripts on the server, drive home and finish my work from there.  Being pcAnywhere, every couple of times I’d also have to drive back to work because the program would crash, but hey, an 80% success rate wasn’t too bad at the time.

Fast forward a decade (and more) to when I’m a QSA and pcAnywhere is still out there, and in all too many cases, it’s actually the same version I was using, or nearly the same vintage.  But it’s not me using it to manage a OS/2 Warp mail server (yes, OS/2 Warp), it’s being used to manage Point of Sales (POS) systems all across the US.  You see, mom and pop stores with POS systems don’t have a clue on how to set up a computer, so they find a nice, local service provider who will set up the POS for them, trouble shoot it when they have problems and just generally manage the system for a price.

Herein lies the problem.  If you’re a small, local service provider who makes their living servicing these folks, you have to be able to work quickly and cheaply with clients in a large are if you’re going to make a living.  You need to be able to get on their systems quickly to troubleshot problems and get them back online.  So of course you use a remote desktop client like pcAnywhere and you’re going to leave it directly exposed to the Internet since that’s the easiest way to make sure it’s always available and you don’t have to do a lot of troubleshooting of network equipment.  And you probably use the same password on all your clients, since you don’t want to have to rely on having the right password written down somewhere when the client calls screaming that they’re system is down.  After all, no one would scan for open pcAnywhere servers, nor would they guess the user name is ‘admin’ and the passphrase is “Let me in!” (at least it has complexity).  And you don’t worry about changing passwords when an employee leaves or updating to the latest patch levels.  In other words, a security nightmare.

In 2009, when I worked for Trustwave, one of the things that annual security report dug into was some of the repercussions of this type of remote management of POS systems.  And no surprise, one of the things they discovered was that remote desktop applications like pcAnywhere were one of the leading causes of small business compromises, especially compromises that involved either small chains or a group of geographically close stores.  An attacker would scan for the remote desktop client and then brute force the password and spread out to the other clients of the service provider.  Soon you’d have a whole segment of the local merchant community who’d been compromised and didn’t know how or why it’d happened.  And things have not gotten better since then.

I doubt things will change, I doubt most of the people who actually use pcAnywhere as a tool are going to even notice or read Symantec’s posting.  It’s the only way that the current business model works, not just in the merchant community, but in many other small business communities as well.  The service provider model requires remote tools, otherwise the travel time to and from locations kills any chance of making a profit.  Which means the folks who want compromise systems and steal credit cards are going to continue to have access to the remote desktop solutions. 

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Weird risk stories from 2011

by Luther Martin on January 20, 2012

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There's an interesting article at the allbusiness.com web site that talks about some unusual risks that appeared in 2011. Here's one of the incidents that this article describes:

Newspaper Burned by Exploding Donuts

Apparently crazy court decisions are not solely an American invention. A Chilean newspaper, La Tercera, was recently ordered to pay $163,000 US to 13 people who suffered burns after the churros they were cooking exploded. The court agreed that the temperature listed in the paper’s recipe was too hot, which caused the dough to explode.

The plaintiffs won’t be rolling in dough, but this is a very unique legal theory. I wonder if U.S. newspapers will discontinue printing recipes to mitigate their risk.

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Why Security carries a Risk Management umbrella wherever it goes

by Shawna Turner-Rice on January 9, 2012

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Security people used to be stereotyped as geeky people who did obscure things with systems against equally obscure threats. However, you can’t read security news lately and not see references to risk, and then to risk management, regardless of what segment (banking, retail, construction, etc.) you are in. For people just getting familiar with the [...]

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Do Your Admins Hold the Keys to the Kingdom?

by Sam Erdheim on January 9, 2012

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Guest post by Matthew Pascucci, Information Security writer and Practitioner.

Are your admins holding the keys to your network’s kingdom? No, this isn’t some fairy tale where the admins are dark wizards with magical powers over your enterprise, but it might as well be just as dangerous. Many administrators aren’t aware of the damage they can cause with the permissions they’ve been granted, either malicious or not, and we need the ability to monitor these privileged accounts for the risk they introduce.

Insider threats are a big deal, either voluntary or involuntary, and without knowing what our administrators are doing a big part of this risk is left completely to chance. There have been horror stories over the past couple years of admins holding companies hostage, stealing confidential data, or the more common occurrence of a risky change to your network , like opening a hole in your network to allow NetBios ports externally, with or without permission.

First off do you know who has admin access in your organization? This is a question that if asked to management they’d most likely not know. How can you be certain that those that require and have been approved access, are the only ones that have it? There needs to be constant monitoring of administrator groups and privileges to prevent risky changes and rogue admins from compromising your network. Many people end up becoming admins because it’s just easier to give someone more access than it is to fix the actual problem. Laziness is a huge problem that doesn’t help security. Knowing when an admin group is changed or when a new administrator is created is something your security team would want to know.

Secondly, do we know what changes our admins are making on a daily basis? Are these changes approved by a change management procedure, and have they been reviewed for potential risk? It’s one thing to have a change approved, but yet another to have it verified for risk. We’ve all seen changes that have gone through the approval process to only end up causing more issues. Risk management needs to be grafted into your admins’ changes, and there are some systems and procedures that can help make this much simpler and mitigate some of the accidental changes that cause more trouble than they’re worth. Also, being alerted of admin changes is a good way to monitor what’s occurring on your network. The issue here is tying the change to an authorized approval. Many systems try to do this, but only few really succeed in certain aspects.

We need to become better at knowing what our admins are doing, for both auditing and protection of our environment. It’s not that we don’t trust them; it’s that we have a job to do and protection of data is key. For example, if a firewall administrator is opening a port, does management really know the risk to their environment after approval? Say this firewall admin is opening a port for a new software application that unknowingly creates a hole into your PCI zone. Isn’t this something you’d want to know… before it was approved? You’re darn right you would. Having systems that scan for changes, like in this firewall change scenario, and tie them back for risk and even compliance is a huge win for management and engineers.

Lastly, are your admins using their domain or administrator credentials for everyday use? Are Windows domain admins logging into their workstation as domain admins or as regular users? There’s no reason that someone with domain admin credentials should be logging into their workstations every day to read their mail and browse the web. This is an accident waiting to happen. All administrator accounts need to be separated from every day use. Domain admin credentials should be used for one thing, administrating a Windows domain or system. They’re not to be used for common use where they can be compromised, and used against you. If you’re browsing a malicious site or fall for a phishing scam your complete network has just been compromised. Also, separating administrator accounts will give you a much easier time of reporting on actual administrator activity.

Knowing who, what and when your administrators are logged in and making changes is an important aspect of information security. Monitoring for these changes, and who has access is a way to reduce the risk that can be caused by either accidental or malicious changes. As I mentioned before it’s not that we don’t trust our admins, it’s just that we’re not in the business of trusting.

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Open Tabs 12/26/11

by netsecpodcast@mckeay.net (Martin McKeay) on December 26, 2011

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Christmas is over!  I hope yours was good, but I personally find the whole build up and let down stressful and I’m glad when it’s done with.  Especially the part where my kids are home from school for a week and whine every time I tell them to get out of the house for a little while before I have to hurt them.  Not that I’d actually hurt my kids, but it’s sometimes the only threat that will get them moving. 

There have been some interesting stories leading up to Christmas and it’ll be interesting to see what’s been happening behind the scenes while the majority of us have been chomping on candy and ripping open our presents.  I have nothing to support the theory yet, but I strongly suspect most of the bad guys left their tools running while they took some time off, so their might be reports of compromises in the not too distant future.  After all, there were a couple of reports that came out before the weekend, perhaps hoping to get ignored and bypassed in Christmas craziness.

A quick thought on the boycott of GoDaddy over the SOPA legislation.  GoDaddy is such a minor player in this realm and probably signed on to the legislation like a little brother following his older brother, Big Media; they wanted to sound and act cool in the eyes of everyone else without having the faintest idea that what they were doing had real world consequences.  Boycotting GoDaddy is like bullying the little brother when what you really want to do is punch the elder brother in the eye!  It’s ineffective, both in the long run and in the short term, to boycott GoDaddy when what we should really be doing is making the larger players behind SOPA aware this is an evil and unacceptable way to try to regulate the internet.  A crowdsourced version of the list of supporters on the list is available as a Google doc.  If you really want to do something important, boycott some of the big boys on the list and quit going to their movies and buying their products. 

Open Tabs – 12/26/11

  • Chinese computer hackers hit U.S. Chamber of Commerce – I wonder what our hackers are doing to the Chinese behind the scenes.  Not the vocal ones on the con scene, the ones employed by the Three Letter Agencies.  Never mind, we don’t do that, do we.
  • LOIC (Low Orbit Ion Cannon) – DoS attacking tool – The tool is old news, but this is a pretty good writeup.  If you want to know more though, one of my co-workers could tell you a few things more about how it works.
  • The Thought Leader … One year later – Chris Eng’s further harpooning of the information security thought leaders.  I know about half of the video applies to me at least as much as it does anyone else. 
  • How hackers gave Subway a $30 million lesson in point-of-sale security – There’s another meaning for POS, especially when you don’t bother changing default passwords and trust owners to follow procedures.
  • The Dark side of B-Sides – I’m staying out of this fight, since I know all the players.  But I know there’s a lot of truth to both sides of the stories, and the sooner this can be opened up and the aired out, the better for everyone involved.
  • Hackers steal data on millions of Chinese net users – No need for nefarious government hackers when criminals will hack into Chinese sites because they data they hold might be worth something.
  • Insurance against cyber attacks expected to boom – Let’s just insure our systems rather than taking the time to secure them!  Because the insurance companies won’t place caveats on what’s ensured and what constitutes a breach of contract to include poor maintenance control, will they?  “What do you mean our insurance doesn’t cover this?” is a phrase I expect to hear once cyber insurance (I shudder at the name) becomes common place.
  • Congress calls on Twitter to block Taliban – Oh yeah, because it takes so much to set up another account and tell everyone to go there instead.  And because censorship should always be one of the first tools used by a free, democratic system.  These people spend too much time thinking in hyperbole and too little time thinking in reality.

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Understanding risks and probabilities

by Luther Martin on December 20, 2011

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I was just talking to a former co-worker who had just returned from Las Vegas. Although I've been to Las Vegas a few times, I've never gambled while I was there. The expected value of gambling is negative, after all, and I really don't think that I'd find gambling entertaining enough to justify calling any gambling losses an "entertainment expense." My former co-worker, on the other hand, always gambles when he's in Las Vegas.

When I explained my justification for not gambling – the fact that's the best you can do is to lose money in the long run – my former co-worker said, "But that's only if you play the best odds."

"And if you don't do that," I said, "you'll lose even more, won't you?"

Perhaps it's a good thing that this particular former co-worker doesn't work in information security or risk management any more.

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The Personalization of Risk

by C. Warren Axelrod on December 19, 2011

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I realized when I received several comments regarding my September 12, 2011 column “Risk Mismanagement – Scoring vs. Monte Carlo vs. Scoring” from Doug Hubbard and others, that I hadn’t been clear enough in my description of what I had termed “subjective risk.” It also seems that it was not readily apparent to readers whether I supported risk scoring or Monte Carlo methods.   So, let me try to clear up these misunderstandings.

First, the easier one … I am a strong proponent of  the Monte Carlo approach to risk assessment. For a multitude of reasons, many of which are listed in Hubbard’s book, scoring methods are deficient as a means  of expressing risk. Risk scores are highly subjective, not readily able to be aggregated, carry different weights in the minds of various assessors, etc., etc. Yet for  all their deficiencies, risk scoring remains hugely popular. And that’s because risk scores are easy to come up with and simple to present. They don’t involve  complicated probability theory that is difficult to understand and harder to implement. While I believe that scoring, if used with full knowledge of its  limitations, can have some value in focusing management on particular areas of risk and can be used to indicate some broad measure of relative importance, risk  scoring does not properly represent the nature of risks with respect to value, uncertainly and time.

By the way, I must also correct my characterization,  in my September 12, 2011 column, of the OCTAVE® approach being “totally dependent on scoring.” In fact, various OCTAVE® publications play down the use  of scoring, favoring the use of high-medium-low categories—this is what I have used in many of my own publications. To be fair, the OCTAVE® researchers do  introduce scoring in a few places, but with many disclaimers and warnings against its ubiquitous use.

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Smeed’s law and information security

by Luther Martin on December 16, 2011

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Smeed 

Will Smeed's law apply to the dangers from hackers? Probably not. Here's why.

Smeed's law is based on a 1949 observation by Reuben Smeed that the number of deaths per vehicle from automobile accidents tends to decrease over time. So even if the numbers of cars driven increases dramatically, the number of deaths caused by cars will decrease even faster than the number of cars increases, resulting in fewer deaths per car.

Smead claimed that this was due to a sort of group psychology that understands and adapts to risks over time. Some data suggests (PDF), for example, that when cars with modern safety features are used in developing countries the fatality rates per car are as much higher than you'd expect for the same car driven in a more developed country, which is exactly what we'd expect from Smeed's law.

Let's suppose that that people's behavior actually causes Smeed's law. If that's true, we might expect them to adapt to the dangerous world of the Internet, learning to avoid phishing, etc., over time. But this doesn't seem to be happening. That's probably because the threat environment changes too quickly. What's a very serious information security threat today may not be serious at all a year from now, and a year may be too short of a time for the group psychology in Internet users to understand and adapt their behavior to the changing threat.

And unless the adaptation is close to perfect, it may not be enough to significantly affect the threat landscape. If people adapted to spam by never clicking on it, for example, then spamming would become unprofitable and the flood of spam would stop. But because it takes very few people falling for spam-based schemes for the schemes to be profitable, it's unlikely that it will ever be possible for enough people to adapt to spam enough to make it disappear. So even if the group psychology effect of Smeed's law is real, it seems unlikely that it's effects will ever be significant for the risks that information security manages.

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